Money 4 Nothing

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A podcast on music and capitalism hosted by Saxon Baird and Sam Backer. Dropped every other week.

Recent Episodes
  • Spotify Culture (Featuring Liz Pelly + David Turner)
    Feb 19, 2025 – 01:28:55
  • "Homeboy Need a Subpoena": Drake Sues UMG
    Feb 4, 2025 – 54:14
  • What Trump Could Mean for AI and Music
    Jan 20, 2025 – 57:23
  • Financializing Everything (W/ Andrew deWaard)
    Dec 21, 2024 – 01:09:31
  • TikTok VS….Music? (W/ Kristin Robinson)
    Dec 6, 2024 – 44:34
  • Roan Rising: The zoomer soft coup and the future of mass culture
    Nov 12, 2024 – 01:08:56
  • Streaming Music, Streaming Capital (W/ Eric Drott)
    Oct 18, 2024 – 01:17:05
  • NÜ METAL FOREVER (w/ Holiday Kirk)
    Sep 27, 2024 – 01:27:09
  • Taking on Ticketmaster (W/ Kevin Erickson)
    Aug 28, 2024 – 01:22:49
  • AI Music VS. The Lawsuit Tsunami
    Aug 5, 2024 – 01:07:41
  • Are you Ex-Sphere-enced?
    Jul 15, 2024 – 01:05:42
  • How Hip Hop Conquered the Charts (feat. Amy Coddington)
    Jun 19, 2024 – 55:21
  • Embracing Our Fandom (W/ Monia Ali)
    May 24, 2024 – 01:15:12
  • The Political Economy of Rap Beefs
    May 12, 2024 – 01:10:02
  • Karaoke and Personal Pop
    Apr 26, 2024 – 59:05
  • Millennials Nostalgia Tour
    Apr 12, 2024 – 31:24
  • Keep on Streamin’ in the Free World
    Apr 5, 2024 – 01:02:04
  • A Living Wage and a Tik Tok Ban: Could…Congress Transform Music?
    Mar 20, 2024 – 01:11:03
  • Imagine Dragons: The Most Popular Band of the Millennium?
    Feb 26, 2024 – 01:09:36
  • Universal VS. TikTok: The Showdown No One Should Have Wanted
    Feb 5, 2024 – 29:47
  • Pitchfork, GQ, and the Music Criticism Lifestyle
    Jan 30, 2024 – 01:07:00
  • Royalty Rumble at Spotify and a Crisis at Hipgnosis
    Jan 11, 2024 – 58:45
  • BMI Sells Out
    Dec 16, 2023 – 58:58
  • Can You Actually Support This Podcast On Patreon? (w/Penny Fractions)
    Nov 21, 2023 – 47:38
  • E-Zoo and the Future of Nightlife
    Nov 3, 2023 – 57:55
  • Bandcamp Blues: (Penny Fractions 4 Nothing)
    Oct 20, 2023 – 44:18
  • Scooter, Baby! The Life and Times of the Most 2010’s Manager You Can Possibly Imagine
    Oct 13, 2023 – 59:29
  • Moog’s World: The Story Behind the Synthesizer Behind Modern Music (feat. Albert Glinsky)
    Sep 20, 2023 – 01:22:36
  • State of Pl-A(i) With Cherie Hu
    Sep 2, 2023 – 01:09:54
  • Astroworld and the opposite of ”Utopia”
    Aug 10, 2023 – 01:01:20
  • Super Fans and Super Strikes
    Jul 21, 2023 – 01:03:20
  • Ambient Music: Functionality and Liberating Potentials
    Jun 30, 2023 – 01:07:08
  • K-Pop Merger Mania (feat. the Idolcast)
    Jun 16, 2023 – 01:11:13
  • Merlin and What It Means (and Meant) to be Indie
    May 31, 2023 – 01:02:24
  • The Great Music AI Contradiction (Live at Wavelengths Summit)
    May 11, 2023 – 48:59
  • Blurred Lines and the Future of Copyright
    Apr 24, 2023 – 01:07:33
  • Inside the Algorithm Factory: Music Recommendations (w/ Nick Seaver)
    Apr 10, 2023 – 01:04:43
  • Streaming in the Dark: No One Knows Anything (w/ Meredith Rose)
    Mar 24, 2023 – 59:00
  • Spotify Redux (Quiet Threats + Desperate Flailing)
    Mar 7, 2023 – 01:11:34
  • From Houston to the World: The Political Economy of DJ Screw (with Lance Scott Walker)
    Feb 18, 2023 – 01:18:19
  • Metadata Errors in the Lime Green Lamborghini (With Kristin Robinson)
    Feb 1, 2023 – 01:00:53
  • Reggaeton Gets Sued
    Jan 16, 2023 – 59:44
  • A.I. in Der Klub (And Your Next Playlist)
    Jan 2, 2023 – 01:10:48
  • What Taylor Swift Tells Us About the Billboard Charts
    Dec 19, 2022 – 01:04:55
  • The Rise and Fall of SST Records with Jim Ruland
    Dec 1, 2022 – 53:10
  • Penny Fractions Live with Cherie Hu and Liz Pelly
    Nov 16, 2022 – 01:02:20
  • Dan Ozzi on the Political Economy of Selling Out
    Nov 1, 2022 – 01:11:00
  • The Music Catalog Acquisition Cool Down
    Oct 18, 2022 – 57:56
  • Damon Krukowski on Unions, Streaming, and Musical Labor
    Sep 23, 2022 – 51:49
  • The KLF: A Foolproof Way To Hit No. 1
    Sep 8, 2022 – 01:16:38
Recent Reviews
  • Taylor Fixed Rhythms
    So good!
    I run a small independent electronic music label, and the attention Sam and Saxon pay to the financial side, something not every music fan may obsess over, is so refreshing. Nothing is obscured, but nothing is oversimplified. It’s made me feel both sane and inspired. Thanks!
  • LibertyOrDeathToday
    Raising the Right Questions
    I just stumbled on this podcast by searching for Damon Krukowski—I like his writing, and was curious to see if he’d been interviewed about the music industry during COVID. These guys had a good conversation with him, and I’m eager to dig into more of the earlier episodes. They are raising the right questions. Keep up the good work.
  • abstinancydrew
    Big return on investment
    Money for nothing made my music biz stock skyrocket
  • Prof Simon
    A peek
    A peek under the hood of the culture that shapes us. We really are enjoying the golden age of podcasting with shows like this.
  • Big Cat from BK
    Awesome pod!! A must for music nerds
    This is a real gem! I love hearing the guys intricately navigate through a unique landscape of topics related to the music biz. So many nooks and crannies explored that have been otherwise overlooked. 5/5..hoping for a lot more content like this!
  • mama_neta
    Deep and approachable
    Love the fresh perspectives on music and the industry. Great guests!
  • Big Adult Youth
    Best music podcast
    One of the most cleared music shows
  • GR8_TASTE
    🎶🏛🔨
    my favorite podcast about music and capitalism
  • redandblack13
    Super engaging deep dives on the music industry
    Engaging and approachable deep dives into the music industry, tying together how music is changing, how the business model is changing, and contextualizing that in the past or with laws or so much more. Wish there were transcripts!
  • BNNR06
    Outstanding
    Podcast #17 is outstanding. I’m over 60 and not particularly knowledgeable about music, but love to listen and have tried live streaming during this time. This s how helps illuminate the many different challenge and issues related to the pandemic and the impact on music and the industry. This bid all framed within a thoughtful politics and financial framework. Learned a lot!
  • mimms
    A music podcast that isn’t all about hot takes and reviews
    I’ve listened to the first few episodes and it’s really different from any other music podcast I’ve heard...and that’s a good thing! Smart thoughts about the music industry not often talked or written about.
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