Really enjoyed the conversation between these oncologist. They seem to be great doctors who really care for their patients are working for the best solutions they know of. It was also interesting to see their blind spots. The great thing about immunotherapy is slowly opening the door between integrative oncology and traditional oncology. These guys don’t get into it but they are asking the right questions. 1) What can be combined with immunotherapy? 2) What can be done to prevent side effects of traditional treatment? 3) What things can be done to both enhance traditional treatments and lower side effects? Naturopath and integrative doctors know many possible answer to these questions based on case studies and their personal experience. Things that will never get a $500 million dollar set of clinical trials, but have worked for patient after patient. - Infrared Saunas to detox from chemo and have much fewer side effects (combined with other detox techniques). - High Dose Melatonin to reduce radiation damage - with early limited clinical trials as evidence. - Hypothermia for combining with immunotherapy. - Proton radiation on a different schedule than normal to promote immunotherapy (3 day on 4 day off cycle seems to work better than the traditional 5 day on 2 day off, to give the immune system a chance to do its thing). - Micro-biome research to enhance immunotherapy both through diet, supplements, and even fecal transplants. - Natural products and off-label drugs to help limit the metabolism of cancer to slow down its growth, keep it from mutating to new food sources, and ultimately make chemo and other treatments more effective, as well as providing a much greater quality of life for the patients. If transitional oncology would do two things, immunotherapy will advance much faster. 1) Eat a bite of humble pie and realize integrative doctors and oncologist have some answers, and start having conversations with them. 2) Realize their training and education failed them in the areas of nutrition, health, and epi-genetics. 3) Realize the level of corruption in the FDA, NIH, and pharmaceutical companies, with at least 350 MILLION dollars being passed under the table to individual for the last 10 years. This seems to be greatly hampering the rules being used to approve new drugs - creating measure that have nothing to do with patient survival - but do help big pharma profits. So after realizing there is this level of corruption and unethical behavior, it is illogical and unethical to continue to just rely on these groups to produce the “cures” for cancer. It is going to take people doing and trying things have have more ethical motivations, writing papers, doing smaller trials, and forcing innovation solutions down the throat of the FDA with them kicking an screaming. Then someone needs to do something to STOP the unethical price gouging of the Pharma on immunotherapy. The are obviously coordinating their pricing in a cornered market. Again unethical and unjustified. We need to vote for political leaders who can pass some laws to bring this into account. And all the Cancer patient advocacy groups that are SILENT on these issues need to be shamed into action… even though they get big donations from big Pharma too.

Great conversations on all things lung cancer.

great info!